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Burnout Isn't Your Fault with Kelsey Patel

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Former U.S. Senate press secretary, Fortune 500 crisis communicator, and founder of the Pure Joy app, Kelsey J. Patel has reinvented herself more than once, and she was one of the early voices to bring burnout into the modern conversation. She joins Almost Forever hosts Renee and Melanie to talk about why there's no one-size-fits-all body, what burnout really looks like, and how to come back to yourself when life knocks you sideways. Along the way: the toxic mold poisoning that left her without a single second of sleep for two nights, the 20-minute "micro breaks" that can change your week, a pair of bent kitchen tongs that became a monument to her rage, and two simple rules for using AI without handing over your autonomy.
Transcript

In our Mailbag: what to do if you hate meditating, and whether loneliness is really as bad for you as smoking.

Myth or Method: Does 16 ounces of celery juice on an empty stomach every morning really detox your liver, heal your gut and clear your skin? (Our hosts don't agree on this one.)

Chapters:
0:00 "We need physical touch to survive"
0:24 Day three of the FMD, and why fasting together feels easier
3:29 Myth or Method: Does morning celery juice really detox your liver, heal your gut and clear your skin?
10:40 Meet Kelsey J. Patel: from Capitol Hill to Reiki master
11:54 The hill she'll die on: there's no one-size-fits-all body
13:49 Isn't that overwhelming? Embodiment vs. outsourcing your health
15:45 Toxic mold poisoning and two nights of zero sleep
19:24 Finding the mold, and being the "canary in the coal mine" for her family
22:12 Do we all need a crisis to connect with ourselves?
24:43 The hosts' own wake-up calls: IBS, mold and the end of a relationship
28:05 "Nothing lasts forever": first steps through a hard season
30:29 Acute stress vs. burnout, and the signs you're burnt out
33:29 "You didn't do anything wrong": why we weren't built to do this much
35:51 Does a workout count as a micro break?
39:04 The Artist's Way: morning pages and artist dates
44:16 A daily micro-practice: what do my body, mind and spirit need today?
46:25 Taking responsibility, and walking away from Capitol Hill
48:48 Growing up in North Dakota, where your work equals your worth
50:53 How to change course when change feels hard
54:54 The community problem, and why AI may push us back together
56:42 "I need a takeoff and a landing": telling your partner what you need
1:00:44 Should we be turning to AI for answers?
1:03:38 Kelsey's two AI rules: journal first, then set a timer
1:05:12 AI for mental health and companionship: what are we losing?
1:08:58 Hugs, physical touch and the Pure Joy app
1:11:50 What is EFT tapping?
1:15:12 Inside the Hoffman Process
1:17:14 What Hoffman taught her about rage, and the bent kitchen tongs
1:20:15 Mailbag: I hate meditating. Is it for everyone, or am I doing it wrong?
1:22:58 Mailbag: Is loneliness really as bad for you as smoking?
1:29:18 "You're doing great": Kelsey's parting words
1:30:34 Hosts' wrap: the micros and macros of longevity

Guest Bio: Kelsey J. Patel is a wellness expert, Reiki master, author and the founder of the Pure Joy app. She began her career as a press secretary in the U.S. Senate and in corporate crisis communications for a Fortune 500 company before turning to energy work, and she became one of the first voices to bring burnout into the mainstream conversation. She recently launched Miracle Manor, a wellness retreat in Desert Hot Springs, California, and has been featured in The New York Times, Vogue, Goop, mindbodygreen and People.

Find Kelsey on Instagram @kelseyjpatel, at kelseyjpatel.com, and on the Pure Joy app.

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